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  Episode 1: Designing and Planning with Content
18:41 with Allison Grayce Marshall, Dan Gorgone, and Guil HernandezDan, Allison, and Guil provide feedback on two member projects: a website for a nail technician in Scotland, and a portfolio site for a designer/developer.
Websites reviewed in this episode:
- Perfect Ten - http://perfectten.me
 - Matthew Stenquist - http://www.dig.ital.me
 
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                      Hey, everyone. Welcome to Treeviews, the show where you, 
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                      the Treehouse member, can submit your work, your website, 
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                      your web app or other project, and our panel of Treehouse teachers
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                      offer some feedback, so let's introduce today's panel.
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                      [Allison Grayce] [@allisongrayce] I'm Allison Grayce, 
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                      and I am a design teacher here at Treehouse.
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                      [Guil Hernandez] [@guilh] And I'm Guil Hernandez, the front-end design teacher.
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                      [Dan Gorgone] [@dangorgone] And I'm Dan Gorgone. I teach marketing and business.
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                      So first off, we just want to say thank you for submitting your work today.
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                      Our goal with this show is to offer feedback and highlight 
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                      what we think you're doing well and offer some suggestions
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                      for improvements if necessary.
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                      [Guil H.] Our first website is PerfectTen.me from Kevin Esther.
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                      [Perfect Ten] [www.perfectten.me] Kevin designed this site for his wife.
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                      She's a local nail technician, and she's hoping to drum up some business 
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                      with a web redesign.
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                      She's looking to make more of a responsive design, and while he's at it
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                      he's looking to improve his design and coding skills.
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                      And the first impression I got from the site was that 
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                      it was something that immediately with the purple color it jumped out.
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                      I saw the logo, Perfect Ten. Really nice. 
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                      And aside from--if you point right here you see Scotland
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                      kind of hanging off of the header here.
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                      We can fix that really easy, but the information
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                      about the business was what I wanted to  know about, 
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                      and so seeing this I see it has something to do with pedicures, manicures,
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                      so obviously this is about nails and beauty and what-not.
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                      What I didn't get from looking at this site was that this is where
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                      Jackie would accept appointments and go out to local businesses,
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                      and you can see people can book appointments by calling this number.
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                      That's great, but what I didn't understand was that this was not a salon.
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                      This was not a physical location.
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                      When I saw Perfect Ten I thought "Oh, it must be a spa" or whatever,
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                      so I was looking for an address, a phone number.
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                      I didn't see that, but once I finally started reading through it 
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                      I better understood the purpose behind the site.
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                      I feel like that needs to be emphasized a bit more,
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                      a little better understood by the user so they can look at it and say,
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                      "Oh, this is something that would interest me."
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                      "I can call this number or submit something online."
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                      Yeah, and that's a really unique selling proposition 
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                      to be able to have someone come into your home and do your nails,
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                      and I think that's something that should really be emphasized,
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                      and in this main area, this main header, maybe that's a great place 
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                      to feature that kind of unique selling proposition.
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                      And that could be done with brighter colors, maybe add some interesting textures
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                      or colors or something like that to really make it pop more
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                      because right now, the colors, while they're nice,
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                      because purple is a great color for beauty because it kind of evokes
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                      a sense of luxury and high end, and so the colors are right, 
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                      but maybe that specific shade of purple could use some work, 
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                      or maybe a pattern or something in the background
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                      to just make it a little bit more visually interesting.
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                      Now, we were talking about this area right here in the middle,
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                      and it looks like there is some wasted space, but if you perhaps
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                      combine this area with the photos, and I think Kevin said
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                      that he was going to get some higher quality photos there,
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                      if you can use some sort of slider or carousel 
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                      then you could match the great visuals with the information about the business 
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                      that people are looking for.
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                      Sure, and there are also some responsive plugins he can use and downloads,
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                      so first of all, he can visit the Elastislide.
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                      [Elastislide] [http://tympanus.net/Development/Elastislide/]
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                      That's a great responsive plugin with several examples and demos,
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                      and along with that there's FlexSlider, which you can see
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                      this one scales beautifully to browser width.
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                      [Flexslider] [http://www.woothemes.com/flexslider/]
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                      And of course, if he's feeling brave, he can build his own,
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                      and that might be a good solution because he can better suit to his website needs.
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                      [Allison G.] Because one of the problems with the current website,
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                      this gallery view, is that it shows that when you hover over it 
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                      that it's a clickable area, but when you click on it you kind of expect
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                      for the photo to get bigger or for something more interactive to happen,
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                      but instead it takes you to a very different layout,
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                      and it kind of interrupts the flow of the website,
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                      and the only way to get back is by clicking on the logo,
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                      so just a little bit of user flow issues going on right there.
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                      [Guil H.] Sure, and for being one of the first sites you built, 
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                      Kevin, I think it's pretty impressive.
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                      It's a nice use of CSS balance and web fonts going on here,
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                      and for your upcoming design, especially if you're doing more of a 
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                      responsive design, to support your design with a more content-out approach,
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                      so be sure to have all your content in place before you begin,
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                      and just design around that.
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                      To help you get started, there are some frameworks you could start using
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                      and learn from, so you can check out Foundation 3 by Zurb.
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                      [Foundation 3] [foundation.zurb.com]
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                      Another one is 32 and Up by Andy Clark. 
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                      [320 And Up] [stuffandnonsense.co.uk/projects/320andup/]
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                      But if you're looking for something lighter check out the GoldilocksApproach.com.
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                      [The Goldilocks Approach] [http://goldilocksapproach.com]
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                      This is more of a device agnostic approach, which doesn't just conform to
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                      break points for all the resolutions on the devices out there,
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                      and instead it attempts to make your site adaptable to 
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                      other resolutions and devices. 
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                      [Dan G.] From a business and marketing standpoint
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                      one of the important tips that I wanted to communicate here
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                      is that from an SEO standpoint it could be improved
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                      by using the title tag, and so right now 
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                      the name of the business is in the title tag, and that's a good start.
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                      But it's not nearly enough if you want to try to generate more business 
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                      through your search engine.
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                      What you would want to add is information about location
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                      as well as key words and phrases that people are going to search for
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                      regarding the services and products that you provide.
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                      Right here on the home page you've already got that started.
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                      You have some great content to start with.
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                      What I would do is add that to your title tag.
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                      We're talking about these key words right up top,
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                      pedicure, manicure, shellac, anything else 
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                      that would be an important service that you want people to know about
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                      as well as Falkirk.
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                      I don't think you necessarily need Scotland to be in there as well,
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                      but Falkirk and any of the other towns or areas 
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                      that Jackie is willing to go to for these appointments,
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                      get those in the title tag as well, and that should help improve 
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                      your search results, especially the local search results.
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                      Some great suggestions, yeah.
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                      I just wanted to scroll down a little bit too and talk about the details
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                      that he's gone into because you can tell that he put some time and effort 
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                      into thinking beyond this.
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                      He's got a great layout going, and he went in and added shadows
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                      throughout the site, but there are some inconsistencies.
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                      As you can see here with the picture of Jackie,
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                      it looks like there's a bit more of a realistic looking drop shadow
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                      versus this Deals This Month where it has
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                      almost this illustrative kind of drop shadow,
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                      and then on the one to the left there is no drop shadow at all, 
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                      so just kind of thinking about creating this real environment 
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                      and sticking to it.
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                      If you want to go with the illustrative style, just carry that throughout, 
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                      and the same thing with the realistic drop shadows.
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                      They're all great options, just be consistent.
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                      And while we're here on this section, I want to highlight
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                       that this is some really great content.
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                      A lot of people when they're looking for these 
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                      local services they are looking for prices.
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                      They want to know how much each thing costs.
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                      This is really great.
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                      What I really like are the Deals This Month.
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                      The special offers are going to be the things that can really pull
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                      new customers in to try your service for the first time.
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                      The information leads right into a nice call to action for a phone call.
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                      What I think would make it ideal is if you had
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                      a call to action button to an email form
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                      where people could fill out just some simple information,
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                      just get more information about your service, 
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                      about the booking process, 
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                      and if we could move this stuff--at least the Deals This Month--
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                      if we could move it above the fold and maybe, again,
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                      it would be part of a carousel or some kind of slider up here.
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                      You can highlight those deals in addition to 
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                      the great new images that you're going to be adding to the site
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                      as well as how to book an appointment in the first place.
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                      And similarly how he has--you're suggesting that 
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                      maybe he put a button or a call to action.
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                      You could use a similar thing down here, a similar treatment.
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                      That way you also have a call to action at the bottom of the page. 
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                      I'm not sure about the icons used here.
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                      They kind of evoke more of a childish kind of imagery.
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                      [Dan G.] Right, I thought the same thing.
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                      [Allison G.] So maybe using more appropriate things like nail polish
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                      or something like that if you want to include iconography.
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                      [Dan G.] Well, that's a whole bunch of feedback, and Kevin,
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                      I hope that's helpful for you and Jackie.
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                      We wish you the best of luck with the website as you work on your redesign.
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                      Now, our second website that we want to talk about 
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                      was submitted by Matthew Stenquist.
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                      He's a designer and developer in Denver and LA.
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                      [Matthew Stenquist Portfolio] [http://www.dig.ital.me]
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                      This website that he has, which is Digital Me, or D-I-G dot I-T-A-L dot me
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                      serves as an online portfolio,
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                      and as soon as you bring it up it's very visually striking.
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                      There's a lot to like about it.
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                      Allison, why don't you talk about the visuals?
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                      [Allison G.] I thought he did a really awesome job laying out his information. 
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                      There's a clear visual hierarchy going on.
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                      Right away you know who he is and what he does.
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                      His work is below, and I'm a big fan of the gridded type of portfolio look.
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                      But there are some issues that I think maybe he could improve upon
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                      and make his online presence even stronger.
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                      He has this kind of hovering effect when you hover over each of his portfolio pieces,
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                      and it's a little faded out when you first arrive on the page,
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                      and maybe inverting that inner action with the portfolio pieces 
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                      could draw more attention to his work, 
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                      or maybe just increasing the opacity of these thumbnail images.
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                      Yeah, you're asking the user to do a little too much
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                      right off the bat to see the work that they probably came here to see.
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                      Visually users who visit a portfolio site 
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                      want to see those things, want to have access to it immediately,
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                      and I know one thing that we discussed was that
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                      when they click on any of these things, and they all look really interesting,
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                      but if you click on one, say, this iPhone app,
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                      you're brought to a portfolio page where
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                      the first thing you see is the same thing every time.
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                      It's the same product, and you kind of have to dig around
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                      and scroll through the different projects in order to find what you were looking for,
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                      like this one happened to be second on the slider.
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                      Now, there's a lot of great content down here, a lot of key words
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                      people are going to be searching for, especially if they're looking for someone
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                      who can do a specific type of project.
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                      But it's kind of varied, so if we can find a way
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                      to bring them directly from what we click on to that project
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                      and even have a bigger image or a call letter or a link 
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                      to a site or something that would help.
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                      Because essentially it's the same image.
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                      Once you click and view more details it's the same image,
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                      just a little bit larger, so it'd be nice to see some nice detail shots,
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                      and show all that hard work that you put into your portfolio.
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                      Yeah, that's some really nice work, and that use of imagery could really help.
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                      Now on the front end side of things, I think you did a nice job
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                      of adapting to the screen width and devices,
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                      so when I viewed it on the iPhone, however, I noticed that you are having
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                      a bit of a scaling bug, so you need to check
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                      your viewport meta tag.
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                      If you perhaps remove the initial scale attribute equal to one
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                      that might fix some of those zoom bug issues you're having there.
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                      It might help scale to the device better,
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                      and I also suggest perhaps be careful and consider
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                      perhaps using a bolder font because I noticed that what happens,
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                      especially in the About page, once you view it on a smaller device
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                      the font starts to get a little bit fuzzy,
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                      and maybe use bolder font like he's using towards the footer
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                      down here, which is more legible.
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                      [Allison G.] And that's a really nice type treatment to try to 
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                      integrate that a little bit more because on the About page
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                      you have some information about your skills and your contact information.
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                      Perhaps better organizing that information using 
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                      some of those similar header treatments would be a great type treatment to have.
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                      One of the things that was nice to see on the About page
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                      was a clear breakdown of your basic info.
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                      It's the expertise that you have, location where you are,
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                      and even your email address, and while we're on it,
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                      contact information for someone working on 
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                      different technical projects like this, you have to have it. 
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                      You have to have calls to action where people can contact you,
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                      so I don't know if the portfolio is just for display,
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                      you just want to show off different projects,
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                      but if you look up in the navigation and in the header
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                      there's nothing about contact.
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                      There's some of the different platforms that you're on, some images and RSS feed.
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                      Nothing about email or contact me here for more information
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                      if you want more information about my prices or what's going on now. 
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                      That needs to be in there.
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                      And it could be as simple as just adding another mail icon or something 
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                      like that or just the phone number or email.
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                      Something that was really great that really caught my eye
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                      is this brief about statement that you have right here.
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                      It's so difficult to kind of boil down who you are and what you do
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                      in 2 little sentences, and you do it really nicely here,
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                      and even when you mouse over you see some of the important terms
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                      that people are going to be searching for.
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                      And what was interesting is that I moused over, 
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                      and I thought that perhaps if I clicked on these different things
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                      it would bring me to different places, but it all goes to the same About page,
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                      so if it was me, I would suggest one of two things.
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                      Either have a separate link for each one of these areas of expertise
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                      so if I wanted to learn more about what you covered in mobile development projects
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                      it would take me to a mobile dev page, have your mobile dev projects,
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                      your expertise, some of the things you're working on.
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                      Or you can slice up the About page and have different headers in there.
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                      I mean, one or the other, but I love this statement.
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                      What I do wish is that it was consistent as you went to the About page
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                      because then you get here, and there's another statement, and I was kind of thrown a little bit.
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                      I saw an image with snow. 
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                      I saw this headline saying something about a snowboarder.
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                      I wasn't sure what to make of it, but if you can do what Allison mentioned
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                      and really bring out these areas of expertise in this information about you
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                      and maybe knock down the amount of content that's on this page--
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                      it's a little wordy--get right to the focus of who you are, that would help.
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                      [Allison G.] Speaking of who you are,
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                      we're going to talk about your personal branding a little bit.
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                      You have these initials, A.I.L.T., and I don't know if I'm reading out in the right direction,
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                      but we were trying to figure out what that stood for,
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                      so maybe just either further explain that
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                      or maybe using your initials, but the design looks great,
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                      but it's just making sure that you're conveying what you want to convey.
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                      Okay, and also with your responsive approach I also suggest you
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                      consider more break points in your design,
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                      so I feel that there were areas where certain parts of the site,
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                      especially in the navigation and in the side bar,
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                      they were starting to get covered up at certain screen widths, 
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                      so I suggest you take a look at your site in the browser
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                      and just play with the different resolutions a bit and start taking notes
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                      when things start to break and when they break and become obscured,
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                      and then just start a media query to resolve that,
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                      and you'll find that that will work better.
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                      I also suggest using an em-based design versus a fixed-width pixel design.
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                      You will find that your design becomes fluid, and it adapts more 
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                      to devices and screen widths.
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                      And while we're talking about that, it seems that the thing that's covering up
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                      your navigation here is a banner 
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                      for being nominated for a CSS award, which is awesome.
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                      Congratulations on that. That's a really great achievement.
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                      But the thing is, when  you click on that, it takes you out of your website,
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                      so it's taking people from looking at your work to looking at other people
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                      who have been submitted for a CSS award,
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                      so maybe just taking that information--because it's great information
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                      that you want people to know--and putting it in the About page
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                      maybe in its own special section once you start to win more awards.
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                      And if I can offer the same tip I gave to the folks from Scotland
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                      that would be to make use of your title tag
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                      so if people are searching for mobile development expertise
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                      in Denver or Los Angeles, if you're looking for local business,
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                      then you want to make sure that you really grab those people on search results,
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                      so in your title tag make sure you include your location information
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                      if that's relevant to you but especially your areas of expertise,
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                      mobile development, web, front-end developer,
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                      and whatever else that you want to focus on.
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                      That should be in there as well.
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                      Also, this is more of a personal preference, but the transitions and fades
                      17:00
                    
                    
                      between pages and break points might not be necessary
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                      because you're possibly duplicating some of these transition styles
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                      and adding some more styles that perhaps slow your page loading time.
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                      I noticed there was some lag between the break points
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                      and when you click on a link.
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                      It took a little time for the page to load and for the content to display,
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                      and by doing that you're also creating styles 
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                      that your users probably will not notice or see
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                      because they'll, for example, be viewing it on a mobile device or an iPad
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                      or just out of one resolution on a browser,
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                      so they won't necessarily be benefiting from that because they probably won't see it.
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                      Us designers might notice it because we like to get in there 
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                      and start playing with the width,
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                      but it might be something that you could perhaps remove.
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                      I think it was a really nice site.
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                      I mean, there's so much here visually.
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                      The visual content is really what's driving this,
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                      and it's going to be what drives whatever contract
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                      or freelance work that you might get from a portfolio site like this,
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                      so again, the visual content is what is king here,
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                      and I think with some of the suggestions we offered you can
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                      really put those center stage.
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                      Yeah, and I think we can all agree the caliber of the entries
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                      that we received was just top notch, so thank you 
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                      for submitting your work, and each episode of Treeviews
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                      we will feature different teachers to match up with your projects,
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                      so if you would like your work to be reviewed on the next episode,
                      18:32
                    
                    
                      just drop us a line at treeviews@teamtreehouse.com.
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                      Thanks for joining us.>>Thanks guys.>>Thanks.
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